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Missing Piece? Shiancoe Could Help Offense Return To Form

Posted by Mike Wobschall on October 21, 2010 – 7:56 am

A season ago TE Visanthe Shiancoe was a go-to threat for QB Brett Favre and the Vikings offense. He had a career-high 56 catches and 11 TDs, with each of his scores coming in the red zone. This year, though, the passing attack has yet to take its true form and as a result Shiancoe hasn’t seen as much action.

Through 5 games, the Shiancoe has 13 catches for 197 yards and 1 TD. Last week against Dallas he was shutout and he now has 3 total receptions over the past 3 games. The 6-4, 250-pound TE has developed into a talented receiver for the Vikings and when the passing offense gets back on track and produces as it did in 2009, Shiancoe will be a big reason why.

While over the past 2 weeks one can argue the addition of WR Randy Moss to the offense has taken looks away from Shiancoe, an even stronger argument can be made that as the offense continues to improve and gel Shiancoe will become more of a factor. He is an exceptional technician and route runner who can take advantage of mismatches in the middle of the field and down the seam. Moss’ addition as a down-field threat who commands double-teams will assist Shiancoe in finding those mismatches.

“It’s a matter of us putting him in a position to be a prime look on certain passes,” Vikings Head Coach Brad Childress said on Wednesday. “Now I always say, you can be looking at somebody as a prime guy and if he’s gloved or he’s being covered by two people it has to go elsewhere. We can do a better job of that, putting him in better situations.”

This week’s game against Green Bay might present one of those better situations Childress referenced. Surely Green Bay’s priority will be to stop RB Adrian Peterson from establishing the run and then also prevent Moss from torching them deep down the sidelines. As a result, Shiancoe could be in-line to see some of those mismatches that led to a great season a year ago.

On top of all that, statistics indicate that Green Bay has had trouble containing opposing teams’ TEs in recent weeks. Miami’s Anthony Fasano had a 22-yard score last week, Washington’s Chris Coolley had 7 receptions for 69 yards 2 weeks ago, Detroit TEs combined for 154 yards on 14 grabs and in Week 3 Chicago’s Greg Olsen had 5 catches for 64 yards and 1TD.

Now, Green Bay is obviously aware of these facts and will scheme against Shiancoe. They’ve had mixed results against the Vikings pass-catching TE in the past, holding him to 4 total receptions in 2009 but also yielding a TD in each game.

It will be interesting to see how the Vikings try to integrate Shiancoe into the offensive attack going forward. If they can do it successfully, the offense will be one step closer to regaining its 2009 form.


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29 Responses to “Missing Piece? Shiancoe Could Help Offense Return To Form”

  1. By Rick James on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    It will be interesting to see what GB does with Shanks. They dont really have the personal to cover him 1 on 1. I will take Shanks on Hawk all night long. They may try Bishop but he is prone to being outta position. If they try to bring down Woodson or T Williams or any other corner that will take away from what they have on Moss, Harvin, and the gang. Contain Clay Mathews and I think the Vikes are primed for a very big night against GB.

  2. By WTF on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    And last year Green Bay got torched by the unknown (at that time) Sidney Rice. Those were both early games last year, and Brett and Sidney were just getting in sync with one-another. Now that Green Bay has to worry about (the VERY WELL KNOWN) Randy Moss, it should open things up for Shiancoe. Brett just needs to take a peek at him every now and then and he’ll see that the tight end is in position to get a 1st/Touch-down.

  3. By Ned Bateman on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    I’d be willing to bet that a big reason that Shiancoe’s numbers are down is because of the very poor play of the offensive line. He’s probably needed more to keep Favre from getting killed.

  4. By DER on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    None of this matters unless the O-line can give Favre more time to throw. That is the HUGE difference between last year and this year. Whether it’s the O-line or one of the backs picking up the blitzing safety or CB, Favre is having trouble finding time to even checkdown off the primary reciever. Great teams in the past have always underachieved when the O-line cannot handle protecting their QB. This team (now with Moss) has many weapons. Hopefully in the future Favre can have enough time to utilize them.

    So much talk around the NFL has been about the amount of INT’s Favre has thrown to this point of the season compared to last season. I am not a Favre hater or backer, but I can say not many QB’s in the NFL would find much success playing behind this offensive line right now. Hopefully they can gel soon before the season is too far gone.

  5. By Robins on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    DER is correct. Brett needs to have time to throw so please do like you did last year and protect him so he has time to throw the ball! Shiancoe is a great player who usually catches the ball. Between Shiancoe, Harvin and Moss Brett will have fun if you protect him! We need points! Have fun and beat the cheese heads! When Brett is smiling and having fun, we usually win!

  6. By chaos on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    Over the past two seasons the packers had the unarguably weakest o-line in the nfl. yet rodgers still managed to pass for over 4,000 yards and 25 td’s in each season. are you telling me rodgers is better than favre? i dont think so. favre and the O-line are both off thier games and both need to regain last years form.

  7. By chaos on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    Lets go vikings! kick cheese head butt!

  8. By chaos on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    The reason shiancoe’s #’s are down: poor O-line play, poor qb play and injuries.

  9. By the horned norseman on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    even with all that ain’t quite right yet with this team ,i believe they have the odds in their favor for a HUGE win @ lambeau this week based solely on the fact that there aren’t any cheese-heads posting trash on this site!! SKOL VIKINGS!!!!

  10. By PAUL M. on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    “THE LORD L-O-V-E-S PERSISTENCE!” — SO HANG IN THERE VISANTHE.

    SAY IT AGAIN — THE O-LINE MUST KEEP BRET STANDING. I LUV YA ADRIAN, BUT YOU MUST DO A BETTER JOB PICKING UP BLITZES.

    SUGGESTION: WHY NOT BE MORE PRODUCTIVE ON 3rd DOWNS? I HAVE A FEELING THAT A TOUGH KID LIKE PERCY WOULD BE NOT ONLY GREAT AT PICKING UP BLITZES, BUT CAN ACTUALLY DEVELOP INTO A BETTER REGULAR 3rd DOWN BACK THAN CHESTER WAS! WHO PLAYS SLOT ON 3rd DOWNS? SUGGESTION: JOE WEBB CAN LEARN THAT PACKAGE & WILL ATTRACT THE DEFENSE’S RESPECT.

    IN MY OPINION IT’S MORE IMPORTANT TO HAVE A TRIPLE-THREAT (RUNNING, RECEIVING, BLOCKING) BACK LIKE PERCY IN THE BACK FIELD IN SUPPORT OF BRET, THAN TO PUT HIM IN THE SLOT WITH BRET EXPOSED TO A BLIND-SIDE. I JUST THINK THAT CHESTER WAS DYNAMITE & PERCY COULD BE NITRO!

    BY THE WAY, BESIDES USING VISANTHE MORE — HOW ABOUT CAMARILLO? THIS IS A GUY WITH GOOD HANDS WHO KNOWS HOW TO FIND SEAMS IN THE DEFENSE.

    GO PURPLE!

  11. By CA Norwegian on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    We have so many good skill players, but so little time to find them. Handle the speed rushers on the outside with extra help. Dugan, Kleinsasser. Then use screens more – to slow down the rush. Favre is all about skying it, even taking sacks for the opportunity. The help the blockers need is for Favrwe to not hold the ball so long. Our defense is very good if we give them some field to defend. Use AP and lots of blockers and screens.

  12. By Skol_Vikings on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    Yeah, I kinda want to see Jimmy blocking on EVERY third down….

  13. By chaos on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    JARED ALLEN ROCKS!

  14. By Old School on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    Jared Allen better rock this Sunday night!

  15. By rocksalt on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with DER…
    No matter how many talented receivers we have, if the pocket collapses, and our QB is under constant duress, we will remain ineffective on offense.
    The teams looked at the NFC champoinship game(that we should have won) and took the formula of pressuring Favre constantly to disrupt our Offense.
    Guess what? our offense has been disrupted all season.
    Jared and the D boys had better get some pressure on GB, otherwise it will be a long day……..

  16. By TWVIKE on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    rocksalt- Jared will be wearing that #12 Packer jersey by the end of the night. Rodgers will be wearing his A$$ as a hat!!!! GO VIKINGS!!!!!

  17. By soldier1986 on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    @chaos rodgers is 20 years younger and is more mobile also. so he can scramble. our line is horrible and if they block for favre, big things will happen

  18. By Dave on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    I smell grilled cheese!!!

  19. By TWVIKE on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    chaos- Moss cant even get to full speed and Favre is already buried by the Defense.

  20. By Danny on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    “Through 5 games, the Shiancoe has 13 catches for 197 yards and 1 TD. Last week against Dallas he was shutout and he…… ”

    The Shiancoe? Computer spell check owns you, probably add Vicanthe to the dictionary. haha

  21. By Lance on Oct 21, 2010 | Reply

    Green Bay is gonna get Mossed

  22. By Old School on Oct 22, 2010 | Reply

    Better contain Clay Matthews…..Better control the ball and keep it off the ground! Hey, Mckinnie….I know you think you were a Pro-Bowler last year…..That was a joke…..the guy across from you….wearing white and green……your job is to keep him on the othere side of that line that you line up on….not let him come across it every time the ball is snapped…….YOU BIG FAT A#$!

  23. By PAUL M. on Oct 22, 2010 | Reply

    DER & rocksalt — GREAT POINTS! THE O-LINE IS WHERE THE “ACTION” IS IN OUR OFFENSE. NO O-LINE PRODUCTION – NO CHAMPIONSHIP!

    BUT IT’S EQUALLY TRUE THAT SOME OTHER COMPONENTS IN THIS YEAR’S O SQUAD HAVE ADDED A TON OF EXTRA PRESSURE ON OUR O-LINE THAT THEY DIDN’T HAVE TO DEAL WITH LAST SEASON.

    IT’S A DOMINO EFFECT. FIRST, THIS YEAR WE DIDN’T HAVE SIDNEY – A TRUE DEEP THREAT WHICH DEMANDED RESPECT. . . WHICH IN TURN ROLLED COVERAGES AWAY FROM BERNARD, WHO WOULD OCCASIONALLY BURN THE D, WHICH IN TURN WOULD STRETCH THE D OUT FOR SHANK & PERCY, WHICH WOULD TAKE TONS OF PRESSURE OFF OF OUR O-LINE. THAT COMBINED WITH BRET HAVING HIS TIMING DOWN WITH PERCY & SHANK DICTATED THAT A DEFENSE WOULD HAVE TO BE CRAZY TO PUT EIGHT MEN IN THE BOX.

    BUT THIS SEASON – UP TO THE POINT WE GOT RANDY – DEFENSES DIDN’T RESPECT OUR DEEP GAME, BERNARD WASN’T AS FREED UP AS HE WAS LAST YEAR, AND THE DEFENSES ARE 8 & 9 MEN IN THE BOX EVEN DURING SOME PASS PLAYS. THIS IS WHY I BELIEVE OUR O-LINE HAS MUCH MORE PRESSURE TO DEAL WITH.

    YES, THE GREG WILLIAMS DEFENSE THEY USED IN THE CHAMPIONSHIP GAME IS AGGRESSIVE & EFFECTIVE BUT YOU KNOW WHAT? TURN-OVERS ASIDE THAT GAME, WE ABSOLUTELY TORCHED THEM !! WHAT DID WE HAVE – LIKE 400 YDS AGAINST THEM! BUT WE HAD OUR WEAPONS – AND THEY WERE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE.

    I ALSO AGREE THAT BEVEL NEEDS TO “MIX IT UP” WITH SCREENS, QUICK SLANTS AND BACKS TO THE FLATS — SLASHING THEM INSIDE & OUT.

    HAIL PURPLE & GOLD!

  24. By TWVIKE on Oct 22, 2010 | Reply

    Peterson
    Enters
    The
    Endzone
    Repeatidly
    Sunday
    On
    NBC

  25. By rocksalt on Oct 22, 2010 | Reply

    Paul-
    I agree, but isn’t the addition of Moss a deep threat? My point is it is impossible to throw a deep ball when the QB has big lummoxes draped over him…..

  26. By rocksalt on Oct 22, 2010 | Reply

    TWVIKE-
    I hope you are right!

  27. By rocksalt on Oct 22, 2010 | Reply

    BTW Jared had better step it up……..he has only 1 sackso far…….. he is on pace for 2.5 sacks this year……….

  28. By desmond on Oct 23, 2010 | Reply

    The fact is Chilly made a huge gaff in letting Matt Birk sign with the Ravens . Sullivan is good but he is a finess blocker, who needs more seasoning and he seems to be always injured…….butting heads with bigger and stronger DT’s and Nose guards will wear a body down . I am convinced he is not the long term solution at centre .Maybe we should have grabbed Logan Mankins along with Randy Moss for say Berrian and a 2nd pick ……..hmmm Chilly is not the long term at head coach either………Go VIKES

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