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Optimistic Or Pessimistic?

Posted by cjsiewert on October 12, 2010 – 1:26 pm

The 29-20 loss to the NY Jets on Monday Night Football sent the Vikings into a 1-3 hole that is going to take a lot of work to climb out of. But the reality of it all is that the Purple have played just 4 games this season and only 1 in their division. This leaves 12 more regular season games – 5 in the division – to make a playoff push.

You could take 2 polar opposite viewpoints on the outlook for the Vikings from Monday night’s loss to the Jets.

One being that the Vikings offense has been slow-starting early in the game, which seemingly puts them in a hole they cannot escape – a negative aspect that may plague the Vikings for the rest of the season.

The other takes on a more optimistic view; the Vikings offense showed signs of greatness after the Brett Favre-Randy Moss connection for a TD, igniting a furious come-from-behind effort that fell just short – a positive sign of things to come from a star-studded offensive cast.

As Mike noted this morning, we here on the vikings.com Blog would like to point out the latter rather than the former because “that’s how we roll.” But don’t get us wrong, we are well aware of both sides of the outlook here.

First off, if the Vikings can put together a complete game of what they showed during the 2nd half of Monday night’s game, watch out. That was a stout pass defense the Vikings just faced in the Jets – anchored by CBs Antonio Cromartie and Darrelle Revis – and Favre and Co. broke through in the 2nd half with 233 passing yards and 3 TDs. The 2nd half performance by the Vikings offense was an obvious improvement from the 1st half, but also a step forward in comparison to their previous 3 games

Second, a 1-3 start is not the end of the world and the Vikings have proven this in recent years. Just 2 seasons ago in 2008, the Purple started 1-3 but reversed their fortunes by winning 9 of their last 12 in route to winning the NFC North.

So how do you see the Vikings future panning out? Let us know by posting your thoughts in the comments section below this post.


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116 Responses to “Optimistic Or Pessimistic?”

  1. By Malte on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I think this is we should be optimistic.. We have lost all games with very few points.. I think the offense will get going and the following games will be alot of wins in a row IF we can stay healthy all over. Not just the O-line but also the secondary..

  2. By Purple Nation on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    The Vikings can still make a good 13-3 or 12-4 record as long as they don’t let up and continue playing with all their hearts!

    SKOL VIKINGS!!!

  3. By PurplePeopleEater on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Let’s be optimistic. Looking back at how we turned things around in 2008, the best option now is to get a change at QB! Let Favre rest until 2 or 3 weeks from the end of the season, and then let him come back and finish things off for us if the replacement QB stubs his toe. Seems like a recipe for success!!!

  4. By Bryan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Optomistic. Farve is a total competitor and dosent hold on to the negative things that happen. A few easy throws(to harvin) that should have been completed,and the vikings win. Moss WILL open up the other recievers,and Peterson is running like a mad man. The defense is still darn good. This season is driving me nuts,I didnt sleep at all last night,pretty sorry for an adult to care so much about how my vikings do huh.

  5. By viking joe on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I think optimistic,and starting to see what every ones saying and meaning about Brad chilly! and agreeing he must go!! WILF you have a excellant coach every one wants!!! LESLIE FRAZIER!! MAKE HIM HEAD COACH !!! THE TEAM WILL IMPROVE let be optimistic and get REAL here!!

  6. By paul on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    pessimistic if childress stays coach optimistic if ziggy finally FIRES CHILDRESS

  7. By LisaC on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Mike, I am optimistic as always.At times,The offense showed the fire,ability to score points, and the enthusiasm we saw last year. I think they will continue to improve. Oobviously, time is of the essence!!! The stars have aligned in the Vikes favor with the inuries in Green Bay and problems on other teams. Everything is still possible.Skol!

  8. By Anna on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I have some optimism, but being 3 games beyond the Bears already, who weren’t even projected to be the top of the division, worries me. I know they have all the potential and they can do it if they really put forth the effort, but I’m just not seeing the effort even 75% of the time from all the players and the schedule is not at all easy. If the effort improves and the coaching improves, then I can see it, but otherwise I”m just not sure.

  9. By Willie on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    enough enough enough Mr.Wilf pleeeaaaassssseeee return our vikings to the win column .How you ask? Terminate Brad Childress .Don’t let Leslie Frazier getaway like Mike Tomlin while we suffer with mr. potato head

  10. By Kevin on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Have faith, The Vikings are 1-1 in the conference and 1-0 in the division. They beat Dallas this week and split with packers, beat Chicago twice and detroit again. Then beat Arizona,Buffulo,giants, Then win 1 or 2 against new england, washington or philadelphia. That would make them10-6 or 11-5. The key is to get to the playoffs. There is no dominent team in the NFC. when Rice comes back, another plus.

  11. By Carmen on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    As a fan I’m alwayas optimistic. The point the coaches and pleyers keep optimistic too.

  12. By guestfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I agree with Willie….can Childress…let Favre go…quit wasting money on old players…

  13. By Rick James on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Got to be optimistic! We are only 4 games in and this thing aint a sprint. We got the fire power and I am convinced Randy Moss brought the swagger to town with him. Time to flip the script and get rollin!!!!

  14. By guestfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Move the team to a new city willing to build a new stadium…Toronto, Los Angles, maybe San Antonio (they need a NFL team)

  15. By Canadianviking on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    My comments are not posting

  16. By guestfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Hopefully the NFL commissioner will suspend Favre for the rest of the year…sending pics of his johnson to young women…definitely not man of the year material…wonder what the Mrs is thinking.

  17. By guestfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    CanadianViking….are you filling in the “required” boxes?

  18. By guestfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Favre has turned the mighty Vikings into the lowly Vi-queens

  19. By NYViking on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Off to a slow start, but watch out cause we can put any teams lights out. Call it optimism if you will. This is one good football team.

  20. By guestfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Just give the ball to Adrian….

  21. By Skull on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Be optimistic, We always seem to be playing from behind because of early conservative (predictable) play calling. I would like to see them attack early, get a lead and let the defense take chances and make turnovers. We are playing too safe ealry on

  22. By the horned norseman on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    OPTIMISTIC!!!!!

  23. By Canadianviking on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Ya I thought I was. This is from my blackberry

  24. By Kevin on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I definitely have faith in the Vikes. I have faith in all of our players, including Favre. He has to have protection and now with Moss, it will open things up as it did in the second half last night. I agree with the comments from Steve Young after the game. They only let Favre throw 7 times in the first half. He was 3-7. They have to realize that they are a passing team. That is what they do best. Adrian can still get his carries, but they should be hanging their hats on the passing game. If they were doing that, they would not be in the position of having to come from behind. For some reason, they want to have a different identity than who they really are. What got the to the NFC Championship was Favre and the passing game first, then Adrian Peterson. If Favre can stay healthy, they will win a lot of their remaining games.

  25. By guestfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    If, If and An, were a frying pan, we wouldn’t need a skillet.

  26. By Tim Bishop on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Pessimist. I see 6 more losses coming and no replacement for the 20 million dollar interception king next year. Money doesn’t take the place of competent leadership and the organization doesn’t seem to notice this. All the excuses in the world doesn’t change the fact that the Vikings are 1-3 losers with no apparent ability or intention to turn that pattern around. Maybe the NFL should have a two tier system so they have a shot and getting somewhere. They obviously can’t hang with good teams.

  27. By Rick on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    If we can just trim down them COMON MAN moments well be just fine

  28. By Observerfan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    If they could come out to game with fire and make more touchdowns in the first half instead of constantly playing catch-up they would be fine

  29. By SoCalVike on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    If we lose to Dallas,it’s over! Get Dungy!

  30. By Hilary on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    A few things…I was all for Favre until I noticed that even when he is playing bad they never bench him. When you’re afraid of sitting your starter, it’s time to let him go. A player should never be more important than the team. However, in Brett’s defense, some of the ESPN commentators were commenting last night on how in the 20 years Brett has been in the league he has always run a PASS first offense. The Vikings are trying to make him into a run, run, pass man, perhaps to our detriment. I think we should give Brett a little more freedom with the play calling in the first half. I think we all noticed things went more smoothly in the second half when he got to throw more often. Adrian will still get his touches. I have no doubt about that. Tough loss with Cedric. I hope Cook can return for the Dallas game. Will we EVER see Joe Webb?! Has he completely disappeared off the face of the earth?

  31. By Justin on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Week 5 and the offensive line still looks like kindergarteners out there. Why is it taking so long to fix this? Anyway, I still have optimism that Vikings get a winning streak going, starting with the Cowboys but if the offensive line continues to struggle against even our own divisional opponents (Lions, Bears, Packers), we won’t break .500 and won’t even make the wild card!

  32. By Troy on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Sorry right now I am a Pessimist! I am glad alot of people want to be optimistic but no matter how close the games are a loss is a loss. Unless we win this weekend we are done. I will say though if we can win the next two games I will get back on the bandwagon of Optimistic. I love my Vikes and always will but with Chilly he definetly test my will.

  33. By Vinnie on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    ive been a vikings fan my whole life….28 years…im running out of “optimism.” This team has dissapointed me everyone of those years. I’ve learned that no matter how good they look ultimately they will blow it. No one on here can argue that. Last season…perfect example…all the hype for this year and they play like garbage..pretty hard to win games when your offense only decides to play for 20 minutes…Blaming Favre is the easy thing to do but its more than that without him do you really think we woulda scored 3 tds? no way..our defense looks solid despite giving up that rushing td in the 4th otherwise holding the jets to a byncha feild goals but they were on the field the whole game…im hoping it gets turned around and i will ALWAYS be a true fan but i know what the outcome of this season will be…then this offseason is gonna hurt…no new stadium…losing key players to free agency and the start of a “rebuilding” of this team…only then i’ll be buying Los Angeles Vikings jerseys

  34. By WTF on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    After hearing about Cedric the pessimism is starting to kick in. Injuries are on the verge of killing us. Our defensive backfield is starting to look weak, and unless the offense gets things together very quickly, we’re going to be in for a long season.

  35. By Marc Lee on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Like long Vikings fan since the days of Fran Tarkenton so I definitely am optimistic…Know we hae an incredibly potent offense and felt it was beginning to click in the loss….Still feel we can have a winning record of about 10-6 or 11-5 and make a playoff run………

  36. By WTF on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Vinnie, Favre also gave away 3 crucial turnovers. One of them went for a TD and the other 2 were practically already in field-goal range. That’s 13 points that were given up by #4. Our other QBs would have been able to move around much quicker and more smoothly than the gimp as well, avoiding sacks and buying more time for receivers to get open. If nothing else they would have run the ball for a couple of yards instead of throwing an inaccurate pass. The score would have been lower on both sides of the ball, but the Vikings would have had a much better chance of winning.

  37. By Ryan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Vikings only win against sorry teams, they have a hard time with good teams, chilly sorry but you need to pack up and leave he is getting outcoached every game. I was very upbeat about this team in the offseason, they have dug themselves in a deep hole this organization needs to somehow get a real coach with experience in the nfl, chilly is not getting this team prepared right. We have all the soldiers just not the right general to lead the war. What a waste of superstar roster any decent coach can get a ring with this team. Rebuild the whole oline keep hutch. Next years to do list get rid of coach and the whole staff our run defense is sinking also. I have no idea what they do in practice but it sure is not showing up on the field.

  38. By Bev Barninger on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Optimistic! Let Brett throw the ball! We need a good mix of pass and run. Not just mostly running the first half and not getting anywhere. Good coaches instill confidence in their players. Should of practiced atleast some of the first week of the bye. The coaches need to be positive and work with the players. I see good things to come!

  39. By david w on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    That gane got exciting and gave us a preview of whats to come. Long season ahead yet. Ran anyone catch chicago

  40. By The Man on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    visit my blog >>>vikingsbleedpurple.blogspot.com<<< for professional updates and post game analysis information. I will be personally updating the site on a daily basis and hope to get a fairly decent size fan base. Please spread the word!

    The vikings loss to the Jets should be a concern for Vikings fans from one standpoint, that they are now 1-3. Other than that, the Vikes showed how explosive the offense can be with the addition of Randy Moss as they scored three touchdowns in a matter of a half-quarter. This new duo and the new found energy provided by the late comback spurt, hopefully, will ignite the flames and allow the purple and gold to get some wins.

  41. By styx rogan on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    disaster season 5-11

  42. By lisa on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Optimistic!! Did i read someone thinks our defense is sinking.. Definately disagree with that. They kept us in the game all night and was on the field almost the entire first half. Yes, injuries have been hurting us from the start, but all teams are starting to feel the injury bug. I believe the Vikes will pick up where they left off last night when they started to find their rythem. The NFC north is wide open until one of these teams becomes more consistant and a little less sloppy. My pick is the Vikings to be that team.

  43. By Gary on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I try to keep optimistic, but to see a coach on the sideline chewing his cud and no emotions whatsoever leads me to thinking that he has no clue as to what is going on.
    Peterson has to get his yards on his own. The offensive line needs to open some holes for him and also protect the QB.
    They have a whole battery of good recievers, Why not spread the ball around?
    There are three recievers that are 6’4″ Give Hank Baskett a chance. He’s not as fast, but he can leap above a defender and grab the ball.
    I live in an aera that’s Dallas Cowboy crazy. If the Vikings lose I’ll have to leave town for all the flak I get.

    The vikings have all the talant they need. All they are lacking is a coach that can put it together.

  44. By Doug on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    The only way this team is ever going to improve is to start by firing the bald headed man coaching this team. Childress couldn’t coach a pop warner team. Why do you try and beat a team like the Jets and really only use 3 of your weapons, namely AP, Percy and somewhat Randy. What happened to Berriman and Shainco or however you spell his name. These are two great players but weren’t used. Why? And why did we ever let Taylor go? Next we need a couple of bookends on the offensive line that can protect the QB and finally we need corners who can cover people. All teams know they can throw against the Vikes and it doesn’t matter if they score or not it is all about ball control and we can’t stop the pass something that has been obvious for years.

  45. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    common guys the first play should be put in the playbook.Moss to favre did not see that one coming good game vikes….The vikings are getting fired up..Lets all support them and the coaching staff..Brad has alot on his plate

  46. By viking joe on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    HEAR WHAT I SAY!! LESLIE FRAZIER *FOR HEAD COACH* MOST OF THE LEAGES WANT HIM AS A COACH….

  47. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    common Doug the CB’s did a good job..Lets be fare .Lets spend more time supporting the team then always downing them..If you love the vikes lets try supporting them a little more…

  48. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    common guys the first play should be put in the playbook.Moss to favre did not see that one coming good game vikes….The vikings are getting fired up..Lets all support them and the coaching staff..Brad has alot on his plate..MORE VIKING FANS ARE STARTING TO SOUND LIKE PACKER FANS…..AND THE SAINT FANS.SUPPORT YOUR TEAM….LETS BE GOOD FANS GIVE THEM A REASON TO PLAY FOR US…………

  49. By Bruce on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    To Brad and the Wilf owners, if you read this column please listen to a retired football coach. This team is a play or two from being 3-1 or 4-0. They just need to clean up some things. 1) Penalties, they should not be having so may false starts especially from the player who has been a Viking longer than anyone. Have Brett do drills on with these guys until they don’t jump anymore. 2) The O-line needs to be more consistant and play with more passion and fire and that is the coaches responsibility. Run some practices with the defense blitzing and see if these guys can stay on ther guy or pick up the right guy. Be creative with these blitz packages and us them on your opponents as well as the O-line. 3) Practice more with the RBs picking up the blitz better 4) Throw the ball more often to AP and run bootlegs with Favre, he’s great at it. 5) Have one of your DBs purposely let a receiver run free and get Favre to focus on guys that might be open instead of running the play as designed. Some of your best plays are ones that show themselves on their own. 6) Come up with some new plays so that other teams are taken by surprise once in awhile. 7) Look at the history of AP’s running and see where he has the most sucess and run those plays more often. 8) Try disguising your plays better with little things so the defense isn’t sure of what to expect. 9) Blitz more often!!! That seems to be the norm these days with teams and they certainly are causing havoc with our team by blitzing. 10) Teach these guys to always go for the strip, PUNCH THAT BALL OUT when you are tackling! Work on some drills that get these guys programmed to do that. You can win a lot of games with positive turnovers. Good luck the rest of the year, you have the players and talent to go all the way but the coaching needs to step it up!

  50. By Bruce on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    :-) = 8)

  51. By Bruce on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    8) = 8

  52. By Vegas Viking on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    WTF and Purple08…

    I have it on good authority from people I do business with in NYC that Zigi has sent down marching orders to not even think about sitting Brett this year so Chili won’t even consider it. If you guys can’t deal with it, go ahead and complain to Zigi. Zigi enjoys the attention that Brett and Moss will bring to this team the rest of the year and rest assured, he’s going to milk it for everything its worth, so in the end, you’re just wasting your breath blasting away at Favre on these blogs.

    Your best bet is Goodall, but trust me on this, that little hooka has been paid off and will not speak to the NFL. ;)

  53. By Bruce on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Vegas Viking, IF she was paid off she certainly wouldn’t have sold the pictures and voice mails in the first place. Secondly, I though this country was innocent until proven g u i l t y. Thirdly, IF Favre is guilty of sending lewd pictures to this girl, at least he knows that NO means NO and didn’t commit a felony by going to her apartment and r a p i n g her like Ben did! This deserves a hefty fine at best!

    WTF & Purple08, Favre may have throw one interception and fumbled the ball twice due to the wet conditions, but he also threw 3 touchdowns. I saw RBs not picking up their guys on blitzes. I saw long time Veteran Viking players commiting penaties. And I saw a lack l u s t e r effort in the first half by some of the players. Should we sit those players because of their mistakes? Just get off of Favre’s back will ya. He will be putting up a lot of points this year with Moss, Harvin & Shianco and just wait until we have a Moss/Rice combo! And by the way, in Brad’s post game conference he was asked why the second half was so much better offensively and Brad didn’t really have a good answer. Well guess what the answer is people? PLAY CALLING! They created a rythm with their play calling, when will they get that?

  54. By Itsnowornever on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Favre cost us the game he mishandled the snap like two times and an interception, the problem is favre the second is oline and 3rd is chilly.

  55. By Bruce on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    That one fumble you had know-it-all announcer saying right away that Favre had is hands opened up too far. He totally dismisses the possibility that the center might have snapped it a little differently. It’s funny how the snaps and the handoffs are automatically blamed on the QB. I don’t buy it! The second fumble is where you could see the ball slip out of Favre’s hand. It’s fricken raining and Favre doesn’t have soft hands which are great for handling a ball. He has callused hands from working on his property all the time. So I don’t blame him for that. It just happened. The intercption was a bad choice on his part, he whould have saw the safety. But to blam just Favre for the loss is just WRONG! The defense allowed the Jets in the red zone HOW MANY TIMES??? Don’t blame this loss on just one guy, that is stupid!

  56. By PAUL M. on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I ATTENDED THE GAME VS. THE JETS AS A FULLY CLAD VIKINGS FAN.

    LIVING IN NJ, I LISTEN TO ALMOST EVERY REX RYAN NEWS CONFERENCE.

    IF ANY VIKINGS FAN WANTS A TASTE OF HOW & WHY THE JETS AS A TEAM – AND THEIR FANS – ARE SO MOTIVATED TO WIN & EXCEL, JUST GO TO NYJETS.COM AND WATCH THE REX RYAN NEWS CONFERENCE. IT IS WHAT IS MISSING FROM OUR VIKINGS THIS SEASON.

    FOR GOD’S SAKE WHY DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE 2nd HALF OF GAMES FOR OUR TEAM TO COME TOGETHER?? CAN’T THE COACHING STAFF MAKE THEIR ADJUSTMENTS ON THE FLY?? I’M SORRY TO SAY THIS BUT BRAD CHILDRESS, IN MY OPINION, IS JUST A GLORIFIED OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR – AT BEST! I KNOW THAT COACH ANDY REID VETOED BRAD CHILDRESS ON MANY OCCASSIONS, SO HIS SUCCESS AS THE EAGLES OFFENSIVE COORDINATOR WAS DUE TO A MAJOR PART TO ANDY REID.

    OUR SAVING GRACE THIS WEEK MAY BE THAT IN WADE PHILLIPS, WE’RE FACING ANOTHER – AT BEST – GLORIFIED ASSISTANT.

    WE NEED GREATNESS, POISE AND A PROACTIVE INNOVATOR AND LEADER IN BOTH OUR HEAD COACH AND QB OF THE FUTURE.

    EVEN THOUGH I HAVE GREAT ADMIRATION FOR SPIELMAN, I’M VERY FRUSTRATED THAT WE WEREN’T AS PROACTIVE AS WE COULD HAVE BEEN DURING THE PRE-SEASON IN ACQUIRING A WR, O LINEMAN, CB, YOUNG QB OF THE FUTURE, ETC. WHAT DO I MEAN BY PROACTIVE? JUST GO BACK AND REVIEW ALL THE MOVES THE JETS MADE. WHY DO
    I CHOOSE TO LOOK AT THEM? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THEY ARE NOW THE BEST TEAM IN THE NFL.

    HOPEFULLY OUR SEASON WON’T BE OVER IN THE NEXT 2 WEEKS! I JUST WANT TO WIN – NOW!!!

  57. By Just Win on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Optimistic if Favre is benched, injured, suspended by Goodell or walks into Chilly and Wilf’s office and admits he’s doing more harm than good and hopefully retires immediately. Favre’s the main reason why we’re 1-3 and not 3-1 or maybe even 4-0.

    Pessimstic if Favre continues to play. Can’t keep missing open receivers, being like a statue in the pocket, inexplicable fumbles when you’re not even touched by the opponent, and throwing more interceptions than touchdows.

  58. By Bigfan1 on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I don’t think you can forget who got AP and Brett and Rice to MN along with a bunch of other pro-bowl players and we were closer to going to the Super Bowl last year than in 1998 when we lost to Atlanta in the metrodome. I think Childress is a very intelligent and tactful coach and the players love him. I remember when the Vikings had a hard ass coach, an ex-marine, who the players disliked and it showed. Chilly has created a culture within the Vikings organization that is more supportive and accepting than other clubs and I think Minnesota fans should be grateful to have him and for all he’s done. My only criticism is the Vikings should use Joe Webb in some capacity, this guy’s football greatness is wasting on the bench.

  59. By Bigfan1 on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    To Brett Favre, congratulations on 502 TDs and 70,000 passing yards, other pro-bowl HOF quarterbacks don’t come close and most announcers/former NFL players can’t comprehend these stats. You have created another category an elite level most QBs will never reach.

  60. By WTF on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Bruce, you want to talk about stupid? The defense started most drives within scoring positon! They would have had to go 3 & out just about every time to keep the Jets out of the red zone. And when you are forced to come back on to the field after 3 plays of rest or less because the offense can’t move the ball, it is astounding that the defense was able to keep the Jets from scoring a TD until late in the game.

    You hold the prize for being stupid here Bruce. The defensive play is the only reason that we had a prayer in the second half. You can go ahead and make up as many excuses as you want to for Lord Favre, but while you’re doing so, tell me why Sanchez didn’t have any trouble with the turnover bug? Why did the second year QB not mishandle a snap? He was playing in the same conditions, but it was the man with 20 years experience and hands so big that they require specially made gloves that couldn’t hang on to the ball.

  61. By Meekay on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    I remain pig-headedly optimistic. Mostly because I know that the Vikings have all the tools they need to win against any team in the league. Bottom line is Favre cost them the game last night. The dropped snap (which they very clearly showed in the replay) was definitely all Favre. A dropped handoff, which I’ve actually never seen before. And an obvious interception. Three drives lost against one of the toughest teams this year. You simply cannot have mistakes like that an expect to win games. Protection looked much better last night with a few exceptions, but every line will eventually break if the QB doesn’t get the ball in play. I definitely think Favre needs to rotate out with the other QBs once in a while if he wants to stay competitive. He looked very tired. The defense did an amazing job with the game they were handed.

  62. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    (WTF) if your so down on the vikings go watch GIRLS VOLLEYBALL

  63. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    SUPPORT YOU TEAM….I have coached for 17 years and played football for years.YOU CAN GET DOWN EASY ON YOUR TEAM.But lets try to support our guys…

  64. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Meekay have you played football in the rain ………The ball will slip sometimes..Some of you guys sound like packer fans….

  65. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    YOUR RIGHT BRUCE…THANKS BRUCE FOR SEEING THE WHOLE PICTURE……NOT JUST WHAT BRETT DOES WRONG NO ONE IS PERFECT, EVEN KNOW MUST OF THE VIKING FANS THINK THEY COULD DO BETTER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  66. By rodney on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Vegas Viking, IF she was paid off she certainly wouldn’t have sold the pictures and voice mails in the first place. Secondly, I though this country was innocent until proven g u i l t y. Thirdly, IF Favre is guilty of sending lewd pictures to this girl, at least he knows that NO means NO and didn’t commit a felony by going to her apartment and r a p i n g her like Ben did! This deserves a hefty fine at best!

    (we all forget Aaron rodgers has nude pictures of brett under his pillow,nobody wines about that)……

  67. By UBRETT-CHA on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Optimistic!!! SKOL, VIKINGS!!!!

  68. By soldier1986 on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    to all the haters out there. congrats brett favre on 502 tds, and over 70,000 passing yards. you were the only one that brought us back in the second half. including your 225 yards and 3 tds in the 4 quater ALONE! manning cant touch your toughness. so if your reading this. thank you. you are truly the greatest. i dont care what people say. nobody can touch you. and rodgers is a little
    p!@#y b!@#$h. kind of funny all the starting qb’s in the nfc north are hurt, but the only one playing is the 41 year old. IRON MAN!!!!!!!!

  69. By arahn on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    This is a team destined for great things. All that is happening now is just building the tensions for a grand finale. I remember the last year Elway played they had a terrible start and only made the play-offs with a wild-card spot and they went on to win the SB. No reason to throw-in the towel already.

    A total of nine wild card teams in NFL history have made it to the Super Bowl, with five of them going on to win the Super Bowl. This is how the Vikes season will be.

  70. By arahn on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    and PS: we will play the Jets at the SB!

  71. By Duane N on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Pessimistic. Favre is gonna sink the season with his arm injury, just like he did with the Jets. He’ll never sit out no matter how bad his arm is.

    Coaches seem clueless. How hard is it to get Harvin the ball more? Would like to see more screens to Peterson.

    Honestly would feel better with Jackson in. I really want to see him try a few throws to Moss. Favre is done. Sure he could turn it around but he’ll still just end the season with a pick.

    Vikings could have won every game this year. Can’t forget that.

    Twins got owned again and another should have won game for the Vikes=pessimistic. Cowboys fans talking trash about this game makes me smile though.

  72. By UBRETT-CHA on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    We LOVE YOU, SILVER FOX!! 500 tds and 70,000 yds is UNBELIEVABLE!!!! The Vikings have the talent, the heart and the swagger to go all the way to the Big Game. If you are NOT optimistic about that, than you are NOT a true Viking fan. Send the team your best “SKOL” spirit right now–they need it more than ever. SKOL, VIKINGS!!!! SHOW YOUR HORNS, BABY!!!

  73. By UBRETT-CHA on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    P.S. Glad to see you, Soldier1986. I was wondering where you were.

  74. By Vegas Viking on Oct 12, 2010 | Reply

    Rodney, if she hasn’t been paid off by now, she is open to it, trust me, read between the lines, why is she stonewalling the NFL’s goon squad? She wants an out-of-court settlement without ever even having to threaten a lawsuit.

    And I agree, innocent to proven guilty should be the norm, unfortunately, the media has already tried and convicted the guy. Personally, I thought Favre played awesome the 2nd half and it left me very optimistic for the coming 12 games as I’m looking forward to seeing what Moss, Percy, Shank, and Favre can do in the passing game.

  75. By arahn on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Vegas Viking,
    It’s a shame the “professional woman” has to be paid at all — like you said, Brett’s innocent til proven guilty (except in the media/gossip). We don’t know the details but it is really strange that she waited so long to bring it up. In any case, there wasn’t any crime committed so (Brett wasn’t her employer or boss) she should be made happy with cash for her “distress”.

    I hope Favre can forget about it and the team can get back to focusing on the game. It would have been nice to see a perfect start on the season but I will much prefer seeing a perfect end.

  76. By Just Win on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Absolutely amazing that people are still trying to defend Favre after this loss. All we could hear for 4 weeks is that Favre is missing Sidney and that’s the major reason why he’s got one of the worst QB ratings in the league. Well we got Moss, who’s even better than Sidney, and Favre still manages to lose the game by finding a way to fumble twice, miss open receivers, and throw an interception instead of driving the Vikings to a game winning field goal.

    I’ve been a Vikings fan my whole life. As my “Just Win” name states, I don’t care who’s at QB as long as the QB plays decent, not near the bottom of the league as Favre has done for 4 straight games. Since Zigy doesn’t want to admit he’s wasting 16 milion this season, then unfortunately we’re stuck with Favre. As a result, unfortunately part of me really wants to see the Vikings lose every game this season with Favre at QB, just so I can see the comments of people trying to defend Favre when the Vikings go 3-13.

  77. By rodney on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Snap here we are again……News: NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell reiterates that the league is looking into allegations Favre sent racy messages and lewd photos to a game hostess when he played for the Jets in 2008. [-]
    Impact: Deadspin posted a story Thursday which included several voicemails allegedly sent by Favre to Jenn Sterger, who worked for the Jets at the time. The voicemails include a man asking to meet with Sterger, who now is a TV personality for the Versus network

    Aaron still has those nude pics of brett,Iam sorry I found out they are not under his PILLOW.They are on his WALL…Sorry Aaron for that bad info I will get it right next time..

  78. By rodney on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Aaron still has those nude pics of brett,Iam sorry I found out they are not under his PILLOW.They are on his WALL…Sorry Aaron for that bad info I will get it right next time..Aaron Rodgers loves brett why can’t we..

  79. By Favre4Lyfe on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Tim Bishop your a DOUSCHE BAG. As poorly as things are going this season we still have not been blown out of a game yet. If we can get the offense jump started earlier then there is a great chance we can finish the season 10-6 maybe even 11-5. A two tier system? R u joking? I foresee the Vikings finishing highly in the NFC and probably winning their division if they just get the offense going. I can’t believe you even responded with that comment to be honest. We just played one of the best defenses in the NFL and with only 50 yds offense in the first half still made it a ball game and came close to if not surpassing their season marks for PYA and RYA and most of that was in one half. I have to stay if the vikings can come into the future games with the same offensive aggression throughout the whole game they will be in the playoffs and possibly making a run and the Lombardi Trophy.

  80. By Fred Owens on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Pessimistic.
    If Childress remains coach, and I think he will. I don’t think we will win more than 5 games this year. The reason is because Childress has lost the team. the player have no respect for him. Favre runs the offence and the defense front is a joke. They have been ripped and gashed in every gave so far this year. These so called pro-bowl player are doing what they want to do and not what they should be are coached to do, they always slant in the same direction and the offence line just push them out of the hole. Additionally, where are the linebackers and the DB’s they have been nothing but frist down and touchdown makers for the other teams. This breaks my heart, but I believe Five games max.

  81. By PaulyW on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Pessimistic – Favre is horrible. Last year was a fluke because defenses only paid attention to AD. Now they just go after Favre and he folds like he always has. It was a dumb for us to go after him (especially the manner in which we did).

  82. By Don from MS on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    The way i see it that the NFC north is off to a slow start other than the Bears. We must win all division games and the Bears will implode because they have no offense. so we get 6 wins there. The vikings will have to win 3 plus games to win the NFC North. Maybe when rice gets back and they can spread the field out with 4 wide receiver sets we can start smoking some teams. That game against the Jets at least 10 off those hand offs to AP were not very good plays. The Jets D is gooooood against the run. Not until the vike started passing the ball more did it open up. It was a tough loss anyway. I believe we will beat the Cowboys, packers and pats.

  83. By Bruce on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Just Win, I have one thing to say to you. Your name should be Just J E R K!

  84. By Bruce on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    If anyone would bother to realize the truth. The truth is that the 2 fumbles by Favre were not mistakes he made. One was because the hike from the center was not perfect. When you hike the ball, it has to be the exact same way every time or there is a chance of a fumble. The center is immediately being pushed back and the quarteback has to move back immediately. There are too many variables to just automatically blame this on just Brett. You take the ball a million times in your career, there are going to be some mishaps. The second fumble you can plainly see the ball pop out of his hand due to the wet conditions. That isn’t a mistake by Brett either but some of you people automatically blame Brett. The ONE intercpetion he threw was a bad choice because the safety was too close to the receiver. But that happens to ALL quarterbacks in the league. And like I have stated before, because of the fact that Brett has the most attempts in the league, he also has the most interceptions as well. But the Career Intercpetion Ratio which shows how many interceptions he throws for every attempt he makes is a very acceptable ratio. Better than 25 Hall of Fame quarterbacks, including the likes of Fran Tarkenton, Bart Starr, Terry Bradshaw, Roger Staubach & Johnny Unitas. SO GET OFF OF HIS BACK WILL YA, he still gives 110% and I have faith that this team will turn this around. Except for this last game, they have lost games by one score or less. They could easily be 3-1 instead of 1-3. People calling for Favre’s head are just J E R K S and just don’t have any faith or have any knowledge of the game!

  85. By rocksalt on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    I really do wish that we could fix what is wrong with this team simply by wishing well and thinking positive thoughts.
    If that were the case, then I wish for the ecomony to rebound back, but wishes are merely hopes and dreams, not reality.
    The reality of the situation is there are reasons not to be optimistic.:
    recurring key inhuries
    turnovers/penalties
    lack of team preparation
    poor coaching/player performance
    unable to put together a 60 minute effort
    unable to pressure opposing qbs consistently
    1-3 in a tough schedule
    lack of defensive turnovers/sacks
    poor offensive line

  86. By rocksalt on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    BTW-
    The collective team performances thus far this season have at times looked like pre-season sloppiness. This is not how championship teams play.

  87. By JennVA4vikings on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Bench Favre! He has hurt our team enough and he is incredibly inconsistent. When you compare the performance of Sanchez vs Favre from Monday night, the differences are unbelievable.

    Thank you D for a job well done! I love our team! Way to go Moss!

  88. By WTF on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Bruce, give it up. Your arguments are laughable. The interception that “happens to ALL quarterbacks” has happened to Favre 7 TIMES in 4 games. Go ahead and try to make up an excuse for every one of them. The excuses don’t change the facts. Forget about #4’s career stats, we’re worried about his season stats. History shows that no QB has ever done well after turning 40. Favre was able to surpass that obstacle, but a year later history is catching up to him. Now at 41 Favre’s age has caught up to him, and no excuses in this world are going to save him from the cold hard fact that he can’t perform as the $20million super star he was built up to be this year.

  89. By vikesfan1967 on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Can Favre since Jackson can do this good,plus he can at least run.

  90. By GOLDVIKE on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    I HAVE NO IDEA WHY ALLDAY CAN NOT GET 25 TO 30 CARRIES EACH AND EVERY GAME!!!!!

  91. By WTF on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    GOLDVIKE – It’s because management wants to make this FAVRE’S TEAM. Apparantly the freakish spectacle of seeing a guy who belongs in a nursing home getting beat-down by professional atheletes sells more tickets than seeing a running back lead his team to a win.

  92. By vikeslife on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    favre should of thrown to #40? more you us favre a superbowl we all know your going to retire this year do this for all of us lets go purple!

  93. By Meekay on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    I love the wet weather argument. Nevermind that we’re talking about a 20 year veteran who handles the ball on every play and has played in wet weather before. Nevermind that no other player on the field had any problems holding onto the ball. It’s just pathetic.

  94. By soldier1986 on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    @paulyw lol dude last year was not a fluke. i have seen many seasons like that from favre. haha wow. last year a fluke huh? that last second td pass against the 49ers. i have seen him do that countless time with green bay. no other qb has done that more. if our line can protect brett, look what he can do. look what he did in the second half. and the 4th quarte alone he threw for 225 yards and 3 tds. once again favre had to bring them back. leave it to an old man to do it. yeah he threw a pick. ok. but nobody cares that the fact he kept them in the game. and that our qb just passed a HUGE milestone

  95. By rodney on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Meekay did you close your eyes on the rest of the plays where the ball was dropped on defence because it was wet..And the jets WR’s missed a few because the ball was wet…Its nice to have someone to blame…All you blamers suit up for the next game are just shut the h-ll up and support your team are become packer fans they all whine to…

  96. By rodney on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    LETS ALL BLAME BRETT BECAUSE WE HAVE ALOT OF PACKER WHINERS HERE…

  97. By rodney on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Sorry the boys made a mistake lets fire all of them and put some of these pro football fans out there, they can do better..

  98. By wezo on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    favre is washed up
    childress is stupidly lost
    this makes 4 a 8 & 8 season at best with all the favre fans giving credit and making excuses 4 this guy in anything he does.
    i’m not optimistic or pessimistic more realistic in seeing things 4 what they are.
    2 weeks to prepare 4 the jets and we only get maybe 1 or 2 first downs in a half lets me know that this coach doesnt devise a game plan on how to attack the opposing teams d-fence or he’s just stubborn.

  99. By Bruce on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    WTF, your arguments are laughable as you are! Eli Manning a Super Bowl QB has as many intercpetions as Favre does if not one more. Do you hear WHINY GIANT FANS crying for them to bench Eli? Grow up and have some faith people!

  100. By rodney on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Bruce is wright…wezo..stop smoken the weedo and support you team are go back to the packer site..Are suit up if you can do better…

  101. By rodney on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    I wish the NFL could fire some of these cry baby fans boo hoo…IF WE WAS
    4-0 #4 would be a GOD.IF WE LOSE THE REST OF THE GAMES IT WOULD BE FUNNY TO WATCH ALL OF OUR CRY BABY FANS GET UPSET . YOU CAN”T GO BLAMING PEOPLE FOR HAVING A FEW BAD GAMES.LOOK AT IT THIS WAY IT COULD HAVE BEEN four BLOWOUTS…Some people on here sound upset because they didn’t get nude pics of brett..Ask Aaron rodgers iam sure he has a few…He can send you…

  102. By GJ on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    There is no one who can deal with P. Harvin, You have to know his history. Get the ball to in the slot, wildcat, and he can flat move up the field.If brett had not over thrown him, Percy would have gotten them in field goal range. Use that talent

  103. By soldier1986 on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    @bruce. agreed my friend

  104. By David on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    Why waste your comments? Everyone get a dose or reality– our coach and our quarterback are not going to be replaced this season, so stand behind them.
    And how quickly the complainers will start praising once the Vikings accomplish several consecutive wins. Before submitting a whine on this blog, ask yourself, do you get motivated when people condemn and criticize, or when they expect great things? Minnesota has an expectation spirit of mediocrity and once there is trouble, everyone whines and complains. If the whole state came together as a cohesive whole to stand behind and with our team, we will finally get that Super Bowl Title. Stop the negativity!

  105. By fkj74 on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    I am the glaas half full guy. But the turnovers must stop, the ints. I love Brett, but hes has to take care of the ball. If that happens we can win vs anyone. Go Vikes!

  106. By Ragnar's Disciple on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    I am not sure how I feel about the outlook of this year. Here’s my take. We have 6 more games. I think we should win all of these. We were undefeated at home last year and I believe the Miami game was a fluke. The offense looks to be on the right track now. So if we win these, that will be 7 wins. I think we will win at Detroit at the end of the year so that will be 8 wins.

    So that leaves 5 road games. Green Bay looks very injury riddled and we play there in 2 weeks so could very well win. At Washington should be very winnable as well. So there are 10 wins.

    That leaves at Philly, at Chicago and at New England. If we can win 1 or 2 of these, preferably the Chicago and Philly games for tie breakers, we will be at 11 or 12 wins and should be good for the wild card or maybe even the division if we can sweep it.

    When Sidney gets back, opposing defenses will have trouble dealing with Rice, Moss, Harvin, and Shiancoe, not to mention Peterson. I still have faith but it is a must win for the rest of the home games and a lot of the road games so perhaps this will lead to more aggressive play and a strong playoff push

  107. By Ragnar's Disciple on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    * I meant we have 6 more home games

  108. By robert johnson on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    that head coach needs to be fired!!!!!! where is jon gruden???? i been a vikeings fan since “joe kapp” was QB, i sure would like to see them win a super bowl before i die, but i’m begaining to wonder if i will.

  109. By Favre4Lyfe on Oct 13, 2010 | Reply

    @Fred Owens…Are you kidding me? Are you really attacking our defense. I do agree with you that we need to get more pressure on the QB and that could cause some 3 & outs or some forced turnovers but your really attacking the defense. Even without the pressure on the QB the defense is the reason we’ve been in all of the games this season. The Jets in the first half started with possesion in vikings territory how many times…and we held them to how many points? 9?, and i dont know if youve been paying attention to the NFL this year but the jets offense has been doing fairly well. I think to attack the defense is absolutely rediculous and just proves that you need to do some research and learn a thing or 2 about the game before you jump on here and start running your stupid mouth with that garbage…GET OUTTA HERE

  110. By Rye on Oct 14, 2010 | Reply

    Fact is, Brett has 7 int’s and 4 fumbles in 4 games. If he doesn’t turn it around this week, I hope chilly has the guts to sit him.

    After thinking about all the points teams have scored off Favres turnovers, I have to think he is the main reason we are not 3-1 or 4-0.

    Right now, I think the Vikings would have a better chance to win with TJACK.

  111. By Hector from Halifax on Oct 14, 2010 | Reply

    OPTIMISTIC…. The Vikings can do it, they just need a few things: Front line to give favre a couple extra seconds to throw confortable. Favre needs to slow down and not force the ball. We also know Moss can catch it, so the extra seconds would allow him to break loose.
    It’s been a stressful season for all. I hope they put it behind them. I believe a 10-6 season is possible, no pipe dreams here. That may be enough for a wild card or NFC North if they do well in the Division.

  112. By rocksalt on Oct 14, 2010 | Reply

    One can choose whether to be optimistic or pessimistic. But simply thinking positive thoughts will not help this team play better or win games. If we could control negative situations by merely thinking positively, then there would be no world hunger, war, injustice, crime, etc.
    The fans who are angry and frustrated are expressing their dissatisfaction with the supbar performances of their favorite team. This is to be expected, fans are not supposed to be brainwashed into the “everything is good” mindset,especially when their team looks as bad as ours has.

  113. By Barry on Oct 14, 2010 | Reply

    Travaris Jackson will be in and is hungry. The only time I’ve seen Favre hungry is the latter part of the game against the Jets. Too little . . . . too late. Then, he threw another “New Orleans” interception, even after he overthrew Harvin, who could have taken it for another 40 yards at least and . . . . . . field goal and win. Too bad. I really hope that the allegations against Favre are not true, but if they are his head will not be in the game. I hate to say it, but I’d try Jackson in conjunction with Favre to carry them through the season and hopefully to the playoffs.

  114. By Peteyball on Oct 14, 2010 | Reply

    I get frustrated at times watching a Viking team which has more talent then the Jets team and yet sputters till the end of the third quarter. Then sputters terribly when the game can be won at the end. Then I realize it’s a business and your playing at a brand new stadium. You need to sell out each game and keep the fans eating and drinking as long as possible to pay off the stadium bill. The Vikes helped the Jets do that. Kept them there at half 9-0 and kept it close until the end. I’ll bet most of the Jets games will be close this season in the new stadium and likewise in Dallas’ new facility. Heck the way they say the economy is they better make the money when they can. Just wondering how they sell out ballgames with the weekly news reports on a struggling economy?

  115. By Ohio Viking on Oct 14, 2010 | Reply

    Optimistic. How can you be. You have an offense that gained 51yrds in the first half. 34 on the ground. The play calling from U NO WHO is nothing but ridiculous. And thats been every game so far this year. Some things never change. They had 2 weeks to prepare for the jets and except for some of the second half the offense looked lethargic, slow to develope, and anemic. Just like it has the first 4 games. The full or running backs aren’t picking up the extra rusher[ as you could see during the jets game] . Sorely miss Chester Taylor. There schedule isn’t a cake walk. Just look at some of there opponents in the upcoming weeks. Not to mention 1-3 doesn’t help. So go figure. I’ve been a VIking fan since Bud Grant was there and as of now this Head Coach is killing the team with the play calling. He can’t control the turn overs, but he can control what he is calling offensively. Just look 2 MIami game. not a single play action to hold the line or line backers from 1st and goal. That was ridiculous. That win would at least have the Viks @ 2-2. The fans can think what they want but all is is not well in MINNESOTA

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