Allen, Vanden Bosch “Luxuries” To Their Defenses

Posted by Mike Wobschall on September 23, 2010 – 4:23 pm

Sunday’s NFC North showdown at Mall of America Field features a pair of powerful defensive lines. The Vikings feature the Williams Wall and pass-rushing DEs Jared Allen and Ray Edwards, of course. The Lions acquired 3 new starters along the defensive line this past offseason in #2 overall pick Ndamukong Suh, Kyle Vanden Bosch and Corey Williams to go along with 3-year veteran Cliff Avril.

While it’s difficult to distinguish which parts of each defensive line are the most valuable, what’s clear to see is how valuable each team’s top DE is to the defense. The Vikings acquired Allen before the 2008 season and the 3-time All-Pro has responded with consecutive 14.-sack seasons. Vanden Bosch was with the Tennessee Titans for 5 seasons prior to signing in Detroit as a free agent this past offseason and he’s already been a difference maker, with 17 tackles and 1.5 sacks in his first 2 games.

Allen’s 14.5 sacks in 2009 helped the Vikings lead the league in that category with 48. But a pass-rushing DE as productive and dominant as Allen does more than just help a team tally sacks. It impacts the overall pass defense and the way coordinators are able to scheme for opposing offenses.

“I know in our case, Jared has made a tremendous difference from a pass rush standpoint and the way I call games as well,” Vikings assistant head coach/defensive coordinator Leslie Frazier said. “Before he arrived we were a lot more pressure (blitzing) and giving people looks. Once he arrived we were able to stay with our four-man front a little bit more and count on our four guys to rush, which helped improve our pass defense.

“It just gives you a luxury you don’t have if you don’t have a Jared Allen, one of the premier pass rushers in the National Football League. He’s made my job a lot easier and he’s made our defense better. It’s a luxury when you have a guy like that.”

Although it’s been just 2 games, it looks as if Vanden Bosch will have a similar impact on the Lions defensive line and overall defense. Vikings Head Coach Brad Childress described Vanden Bosch as a “Tasmanian Devil” earlier in the week and Lions Head Coach Jim Schwartz said the improvement in his defensive line starts with Suh and Vanden Bosch; Schwartz and Vanden Bosch spent time together in Tennessee when Schwartz was the defensive coordinator there.

Schwartz points to the Vikings defensive line as a model for what the Lions are trying to accomplish.

“Go out and get a player like Jared Allen, draft a player like Kevin Williams, sign a player like Pat Williams, develop a player like Ray Edwards,” he said. “They don’t have to blitz to get pressure on the quarterback. They don’t have to get in an eight-man front to stop the run. That’s a very comforting feeling for a head coach and a defensive coordinator for that to be the case. We’re trying to build the same way.”

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36 Responses to “Allen, Vanden Bosch “Luxuries” To Their Defenses”

  1. By WTF on Sep 23, 2010 | Reply

    How about some offensive luxuries? Right now we’re digging around in the dumpster just to find enough to survive…we’ll just have to wait and see if that hankie we pulled out of the trash baskett has anything worth banking on.

  2. By lions rock on Sep 23, 2010 | Reply

    The Lions are coming into the humptydome and are going to win 24 to 17. Suh will have 3 quality hits on Favre.

  3. By Bruce on Sep 23, 2010 | Reply

    WTF, your glass is more than half empty, it’s completely empty isn’t it? I wonder why these other teams can’t afford their own comment boards so they don’t have to run to opposing team’s comment boards? I guess their team’s organiztion figures their fans aren’t worth it.

  4. By Dawn Wisconsin on Sep 23, 2010 | Reply

    WTF..I loved your comment..LMFAO..makes me feel better
    I am down an out with the Vikings ..I’m speechless
    what is happening..THEY NEED HELP QUICK!Please dont let Favre end with a terrible record..thats not Brett..
    The guy needs some more WR Childress WAKE UP!

  5. By TWR on Sep 23, 2010 | Reply

    lions rock you suck and so do the lions. This is where the Vikings get rolling.

  6. By fire childress on Sep 23, 2010 | Reply

    here’s 99.9 pecent of the proble, chilly! we could of had the best running back in the draft, chilly passed on him and he went to Detroit. he lets the best punt returner in the league go to the giants for a 7th round draft choice? then he goes for it on the 4th and 2 in the 1st quarter, that game is all on him. lets trade chilly to buffalso for a future 1st round draft pick

  7. By Loren on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    In all the pressers I have seen no one really mentioned or called anyone out for the fact they went for it on fourth down so many times.Kick the field goal its common sense.With the kicker we have Com’on.Missing an extra point can and has meant the difference between a W or a L.A little more imagination in the OFF game plan wouldnt hurt.If the O line doesnt improve soon forget it T.Jack will be in there by week 6.Favre got hit hard last week.He is tough but only human_(?)

  8. By Woodboat on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Fire Shiacoe and Loadholt for letting the Dolphins R DE smash Favre for a strip/TD.

  9. By Woodboat on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Fire Harvin for slipping and NOT converting that pass into a TD but into an INT.

  10. By Woodboat on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Fire Favre for expecting Berrian to make a play on the ball when he launched it at him.

  11. By Woodboat on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Fire AP for not hurdling TWO guys on the same run play and breaking his own record for yards in a game.

  12. By Woodboat on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    OR…. Let’s all just calm down and see if they can win this one at home vs the Lions, then use the bye week to figure out WTF they can do in the passing game and to help the struggling OL.

  13. By CA Norwegian on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Please play more TE’s. They could double and slow down the speed linemen. ‘
    they could ‘deliver’ the block into the hands of our slower tackles and drift out for release valves and positive yards when no one gets open. Please give ‘web a chance for a sneak or fake sneak, if you go for it again.

  14. By CA Norwegian on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    If Harvine is out, maybe Let Tahi work the slot for downfield blocks to spring AP or make the coverage guys see stars. Then recognize it and go to hurry up to attack the victim.

  15. By rocksalt on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    I hope we can play better, cuz if we go out there and play like we have the last 2 games, we lose. This is going to be a tough game…..Detroit is m uch improved
    they always play us tough, and all divisional games are important.

  16. By lionsrock on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Rolling against the lions– get real, if you beat us you have a bye week– then JETS, Cowboys, Packers, Patriots….good luck with that rolling thing.
    You are a douche.

  17. By Woodboat on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Classy post, Lionsrock.

    Yeah, the Vikings MIGHT lose this game, but they had better not. No disrespect intended, but the Lions haven’t exactly torn up the record books in the past few, oh I don’t know… decades. They are much improved, I grant you, but if the VIkes can’t beat the Lions at home, there isn’t a game on our schedule we CAN win. I’m going to say 16 – 14 Vikes.

  18. By Woodboat on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Tahi in the slot? How about they use the slot receiver they traded the Dolphins for instead. Camarillo is a slot guy… now that Harvin is gimped, lets try using Greg where he can be useful.

  19. By VIKING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    lionsrock, you and your team cant win if you paid the refs off dope ! how many wins do the lions have in the last 3 years????? thought so just 1 or 2 hahaha what a joke of the NFL !!!!!

  20. By VIKING IN NEW HAMPSHIRE on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    lions rock you are a dumb person to post the things you do, class act just like your team !

  21. By Purple Nurple on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Sorry TWR,Lionsrock would be an authority on being a DOUCHE…after all he’s a LIONS FAN!!!

  22. By Purple Nurple on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Chilly is bringing in a few more new recievers to practice this week.Word is Aaron Cox,Clyde Duncan & Bobby Sippio are among the latest promising mix.Chidress may still have a few tricks up his wizzard sleeve!

  23. By Mississippi boy on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    That lionsrock is so dumb he thinks a Mexican border pays rent!

  24. By lionsrock on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    You will here are mighty lions roar with awsome pride!
    Then we will chew those horns off your goofy helmets!

  25. By Purple Nurple on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Uuummm…okay.You guys have been bone gobblers for about 30years’ve got us there.

  26. By ed on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    purple nurple,

    Why doesn’t Chilly give 6’4″ Holmes from the practice squad a chance? I don’t know any of the WR you mentioned earlier? Why not try Webb at WR?

  27. By ed on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply


    Sorry, Misstype. I meant 6’4″ Brown from the practice squad , WR?????

  28. By Mississippi boy on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    ed – you are exactly right…he should try out Payne,Brown & Webb. For a giggle google the WR I mentioned above.

  29. By Mississippi boy on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Yes my alias is Purple Nurple

  30. By ed on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply


    im a so. miss grad from Jxn.! watched brett play for 4 great years in college. small world. ok, i get the sarcasm from the above post!! ha-ha

  31. By Mississippi boy on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Go Old Miss!!!!

  32. By ed on Sep 24, 2010 | Reply

    Mississippi Boy,

    Too bad brett never had a GREAT receiver over the past 20 years, with the exception of S. Sharpe who got injured prematurely. Brett Never had an Irvin, Rice, Moss, etc, to throw to. If he had, he would have multiple rings by now. His pro career has mirrored his S. Miss giant killer days when the small school from the deep south anually thrashed in state rivals like Miss. State , and pulled big upsets on the road like beating big money programs like Auburn, Alabama, and Florida State. He made plays and made average receivers look good, both in the NFL and college.With the exception of the superbowl years when he had Keith jxn, C’humura, Rison, and Freeman, he has always played with good receivers, but not a Hall of fame great( i do give Driver some CRED, but not GREAT, he and Brett had Chemistry). At this point he cant carry an offense like he once did , and should not have to. Confusing why so many good receivers were passed over this summer or let go? (still don’t understand the J. Walker cu, Houzz passover, etc.t?)

  33. By Mississippi boy on Sep 25, 2010 | Reply

    couldn’t of said it better myself…well done.

  34. By Mississippi boy on Sep 25, 2010 | Reply

    Plus..he’s just plain likeable!

  35. By ed on Sep 25, 2010 | Reply


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